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Post by minesweepermaster on Mar 24, 2008 19:08:02 GMT 8
Pls state ur reasons toooo
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Post by Chestee on Mar 24, 2008 19:16:06 GMT 8
Ok. This poll SHOULD BE banned for me, nat and frosty. Cause thats our interclass Dbate motion!!! ok. Me, Galv and Nat be the ppl who support the death penalty, while the rest of the forum want to abolish the death penalty. Is that ok?
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Post by The 13i$cU1+ Mon$+3r on Mar 24, 2008 19:31:28 GMT 8
GOOD idea! Death penalty is EVIL!!! muhahahaha see cultured societies like EU abolish it. It weakens people's morale and will 2 live. They will most probably commit suicide @ death row. Then even life imprisonment sounds horrible. U noe the americans dont say 'life imprisonment' but sentenced to 300 years??! Its inhumane!!
Note: I support the penalty but im following the regulations
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Post by Chestee on Mar 24, 2008 19:34:20 GMT 8
Nvm. The main use of the death penalty is to act as a DETTERENT for people so as to discourage them from commiting crimes that warrant it. So we only give the death penalty to those who DESERVE it and make sure that they do deserve it.
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Post by Tintin on Mar 24, 2008 20:23:47 GMT 8
Even though one person commits a serious wrong, he should be jailed for life and not given the death penalty. A life for a life-those who are Christians, you should know thats not the way it should be. Every life is precious treasure it you never know when you will be needing that guy again and miracles always happen.
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Post by Wesltw on Mar 24, 2008 20:30:45 GMT 8
Can I switch sides?
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Post by webmaster on Mar 24, 2008 20:37:07 GMT 8
Yes. There are no opinion restrictions in debate.
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Post by Chestee on Mar 24, 2008 20:52:58 GMT 8
Then how about the terrorists? Shouldn't they be given the death penalty? Terrorists have taken many innocent lives. Should they escape from prison, such as the case of Mas Selamat, wouldn't there be more innoncent lives taken? For such mass murderers, the ending of their life is so to stop the loss of many innoncent others. Therefore, the death penalty should not be abolished.
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Post by The 13i$cU1+ Mon$+3r on Mar 24, 2008 20:58:15 GMT 8
But u can keeel ms in the most cruel way possible. Staring it in the face while waiting 4 his turn in 50yrs 2 cum. Just put him in a cell in full view of the gallows.
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Post by Chestee on Mar 24, 2008 21:10:03 GMT 8
Wait. let us come back to the main point. The main use of the death penalty is as a DETTERENT AND PUNISHMENT. It is a SEVERE punishment to those who break the law. So we give that punishment to those who SERIOUSLY DESERVE IT.
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Post by mourningfrost on Mar 24, 2008 22:29:51 GMT 8
Even though one person commits a serious wrong, he should be jailed for life and not given the death penalty. A life for a life-those who are Christians, you should know thats not the way it should be. Every life is precious treasure it you never know when you will be needing that guy again and miracles always happen. Not bothering to reply ppl besides tintin who dont present a CLEAR point. Either way, a life for a life is naught, but a life to save other lives. In other words. Have you ever noticed we dont give robbers / theives death sentences, but rather the terrorists, mass murderers and big shot war criminals / gangsters? Its because if they are allowed to escape, or run free in the future, how many more lives will they take? Terrrorists are prepared to die and bring along thousands with them. How much would you risk to keep, feed, and watch this guy for all his life for the rest of his life? Obviously you cant do that. Sooner or later, one or two of these big time criminals will escape. How, then, will you garuntee the safety of the many innocents? Putting them to death is already a heavy detterrent. If they persist, they know the sentence. They have chosen it by themselves. it is not what we forced upon them. Thats why people who have mental illnesses or distresses are not given death sentences except for terrorism and massacres. Like duh
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Post by Chestee on Mar 25, 2008 20:10:12 GMT 8
I agree. And the VICTIMS will be CRYING OUT FOR JUSTICE- Where is justice if we let big-shot war criminals get off with just life imprisonment?!? THEY DESERVE IT.
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Post by webmaster on Mar 25, 2008 20:51:06 GMT 8
There are many sides to this form of debate. For myself, I support the side of 'the death penalty must remain'. Like a couple of good debators have already mentioned before, the death (and sometimes preview death eg. Saddam Hussein) of anybody can be psychologically traumatic to any individual, whether the deceased is of any relation to the individual at all.
The trauma which people may face at the thought of another human being put to death under 'controlled murder' may condition us to learn of our eventual fate if we do commit 'uncontrolled murder'.
The other side of this debate, however, states something that I would wish to point out. To the people who read the news, its terrible. But to the terrorist/murderer, its not.
Being put to Death is not the worst punishment for a terrorist to endure. Its never is.
Isolation (not life imprisonment, per se) is.
Death in civilised countries (where the LAW is REALLY thrown at people's faces hard) is usually quick and painless.
Hanging? Shucks. Maybe a millisecond of severe pain. Then your head gets ripped off and you dies instantly. Thats all there is to it.
Electrocution? Even more painless. Its almost instant as well. Theres nothing for you to suffer.
Sleeping needle thing? (Not sure if this is really used) You just fall asleep and never wake up.
I do understand the a few countries still make use of guns to finish criminals off. However, after you die, you have no more worries, no more thoughts, no more nothing. You will never have to suffer anymore the humiliation of being branded as a criminal icon. Or anyting else. You are free (so called).
Isolation...now THAT is painful.
Ok now I'm really bored of talking to myself, so I'll leave this comment unclosed first. I'll bring the isolation thing up later if anyone else bothers to contridict, or if someone else uses the isolation idea (feel free to do so).
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Post by Wesltw on Mar 25, 2008 21:58:32 GMT 8
Death Penalty, as Chester already said, is a form of deterrent. Imagine some Terrorist commiting a big offence, does it make sense to let him go? No. It would be retarded and downright stupid.
And to think about it, if the terrorist was forced to be one,then his suffering would be over as he no longer have to work for them. And even if he wants to be one, willingly, he dead would be short and painless. They do not get tortured, they just die. It is not cruel.
A life for a life? They killed somebody. Shouldn't they die? You say let God deal with them?I agree. But you let him go scot-free, can you? and if he was destined to die, nothing can stop it.
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Post by webmaster on Mar 25, 2008 22:18:37 GMT 8
Death Penalty, as Chester already said, is a form of deterrent. Imagine some Terrorist commiting a big offence, does it make sense to let him go? Wait...let him go? Whose post are you referring to?
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