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Post by The 13i$cU1+ Mon$+3r on Feb 29, 2008 23:28:00 GMT 8
Pwning time 1. What in the World? No sadist would go that far(Apart from Hitler) 2. ACS had the rule: white socks white shoes everyday. ISnt it the same thing? 3. Ankle socks= looks dumb. Agree but why then can people with no fasion sense be allowed to wear it? 4. Wth? smell also cannot? And like it would be stronger than Nigel's BO... Might as well ban sweating 5. C'mon Tyndale ain't a 5 year old kid. 6. (i)How come you get punished if you are only reminding them for the third time? (ii)Do they really remember your faces? They only remember the prefects as a whole(Unless they are in deep sheet and need 2 Suck up) 7. Yep wished so too ;D And this Debate is the my favourite of all debate topics in and out of the forum Hail me for creating it
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Post by Wesltw on Mar 1, 2008 14:55:28 GMT 8
To Chestee: Nothing can stop man from wearing it, if they want to be gay To CM: Don't be so humble, you're not that great. -- Golda Meir and about point 5: Physically, but not mentally To webmaster: yeah hope he would log on too.And agreed that ankle socks sux To mourningfrost: Agreed totally. Dun b like Tyndale on the lang thingy though To minesweepermaster: Ya nice points and keep up the informal lang! ;D To Tintin:........
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Post by webmaster on Mar 1, 2008 15:57:58 GMT 8
3. Ankle socks= looks dumb. Agree but why then can people with no fashion sense be allowed to wear it? Because its the senior administration of ACS(I) who have the real fashion sense. Seriously, if you're so upset over this, then you should stop accusing the prefects, and start directing your comments towards higher authority instead. The prefectorial board only follows what the ACS(I) board of management tells us to do. webmaster
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Post by minesweepermaster on Mar 1, 2008 21:29:01 GMT 8
exactly my point Dr Ong told us to do this we do it u hav problems find who Dr Ong who asked Dr Ong to Do this MOE who asked MOE? Governement y did Government do this? to raise standard of education in Singapore so that we will be reconized globally so sometimes u see u hav 2 see not jus the big picture but the gigantic picture then u will realize u are arguing for nothing
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Post by The 13i$cU1+ Mon$+3r on Mar 2, 2008 15:18:32 GMT 8
... Schools set their own rules especially an INDEPENDENT school. So MOE says nothing. Chain broken Senior Admin have fasion sense? WTH they only wear suits and ties. Wah lao where did ankle socks are for girls come from? ACS BOM tells you guys what to do? Its not about that its about the character of the prefects which are the topic. Why are the prefects defending so hard? I thought it would be a easy with so many prefect haters And dammit I was defending Tyndale then I am classified 2 be proud?!
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Post by Chestee on Mar 2, 2008 21:07:31 GMT 8
Now from the point i last stopped at- Post# 37 nah, i'll take all of Westlw's points till this part: 1. Just bcause that they were made for girls doesn't mean that men wear them cause it is gay! High-heeled shoes and platform shoes(nt too sure abt platform shoes..) were made for both men and women but only women wear them now! 2. Socks were made to- -ease chafing between the foot and footwear, -keep the feet warm -absorb moisture -provide comfort -absorb perspiration -help prevent athlete's foot -be fashionable -keep the feet clean(all from wikis lol;)) They were not meant to be seen, unless it is a type of socks that were meant to be seen!(the point of being fashionable) 3.I agree that just bcause 1 person says its cool you do not have to agree, and i do agree just bcause millions of ppl over the world says that its cool you do not have to agree. BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS- JUST BECAUSE ALOT OF PPL SAY THAT IT IS UGLY DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO AGREE TOO! 4.WHEN DID WE SAY THAT EVERYONE HAS TO WEAR ANKLE SOCKS!?!!? ITS A MATTER OF CHOICE!!! IN SUCH A COMPETITIVE MARKET, IF ANKLE SOCKS WERE NOT ACCEPTED, COMPANIES WOULD HAVE MAKE OTHER TYPES OF SOCKS AS THEY WOULD NOT SELL WELL! It is a natural business cycle- Demand= prodcution=sales=more production until there is lack of demand. I remind you again- it is a matter of choice, if our ministers wore ankle socks in suits, yes, it would look ugly. But does this stop other people wearing! If you stopped people from wearing ankle socks cause some ppl said its ugly, where would be our Human rights? 4. Heck care about those ppl, they are just plain dumb. 5. I emphasize again, i do not mind not wearing ankle socks, but i just want to clear the misconceptions and prejudices about ankle socks. Thanks. Now, for post #38- OUCH. Nat, if you organise those points it would be less painful for alot of ppl to read that. Ok, lemme see.... So whats the point of this sentence I go up to KJ or Chong??? You can say what you like but give me the examples of cases where thingyroaches actually showup in the class? I refer to my old point- nobody purposely forgets to bring ties or badges. People who are purposely forgetting or habitually forgetting should be the ones to get punished- I mean like, not bringing 3 days in a week- that guy deserves the detention. But not bringing 3 times in a month might not be a hardcore case- Why give detention to that poor soul? Ok. Post #39- Hey Galv, some1 WILL HAVE TO EMPTY THE CLASS DUSTINBIN ONCE A DAY Bcause of Jerett Kan who checks the dustbin everyday??? Next. Post # 404- Nat. We say your grammar is bad cause it is just too tiring to read! Oboy this one. Post#42 No. There was only 1 case with 1 thingyroach. Found in the class cupboard. Tell me about the mindset of others You misunderstood me in that post. What i meant that people DON'T have the "I had better remember to bring the next time" type of mindset which defeats the purpose" No i did not expect you to ignore their offences. I guess some misconception over there as well. Post #44 Agreed. Post#47 Now what we mean is that why cant ppl without that sense wear ankle socks? Post#48That is a dumb reason to disallow ankle socks. Ok fine, we have to listen to Dr. Ong, but i not too sure about having to listen to govt. part. Well, address them again! ;D
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Post by Wesltw on Mar 2, 2008 23:06:38 GMT 8
Cool, let's go again coz men wisened up to the fact that it only looks nice on girls and doesn't look nice on them. Ditto for ankle socks. And boys in our school should also wisen up to the fact and in the process becoming man. If you say this, then tell me: Whats the diff between this and a very high sock? No diff. Then why has the school requested us to wear moderately high socks(Focus on the word moderately)? because it is not as appropriate for school wear. Ankle socks doesn't really look good. People thinks it looks good bcos other ppl are wearing it. Dude, look around the class and school, more ppl say that it is cool rather than ugly and only we 'outcasts' (in your eyes) are 'not cool' Why not say that we are man and you are not? bcos the crowd says so! And why so many ppl like you and CM anti prefects? Cos the crowd says so! Why so many ppl hate UYO's suck? Again, cos the crowd says so! Just bcos we stand for our beliefs and rights, we are called 'outcasts'. Tell me, is this fair? We didn't say that. I didn't say that you canlt wear your ankle socks or smth, nor did I say that other ppl can't wear their ankle socks. To me, its yet another passing fad. (think maple [@chestee], runecape etc) Wasn'it jus the 'in' thing awhile ago? but look at its condition now. What makes you think they are and you are not? Let me emphasise tat i do not mind not wearing ankle socks, but i just wan to clear the misconception about the so-called 'coolness' of ankle socks How sure are you? Wow. If you implement this, then those 'poor souls' will not bring ties once or twice every month bcos they can't get into detention for it. Wats the use of the bookings then? My mindset is that some guy purposely dun bring their ties as a form of protest. Cos we cringe when we see their poor fashion sense and wan to correct their fashion sense. No it's not. We want our ppl to be well educated. Right. Then another criminal breaks free from jail cos the guards dun listen to the govt. and blows ur balls up. In your view, that is, cos you can't take the pressure. Cos we dun hate the prefects but instead admire them for their courage and determination to make the school a better place for all. Dun worri, my i s eqally baad. Agreed. Let's get on with life, eh? Back to you
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Post by The 13i$cU1+ Mon$+3r on Mar 3, 2008 20:28:04 GMT 8
Again I say that so what if it looks dumb? Let people wear it lah. If you can allow people to wear stupid looking shoes(Like Zhihao's) then why not ankle socks? And what does ankle socks have to do with a Good Education? Education is not based on your looks. Doesnt mean that Chester is smart because he looks like he is or that I am dumb cos I look like someone who is. DO NOT JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER
Ankle socks have nothing to do with being Gay. Being Gay is not in what you wear but what you are attracted to. Definition:Of, relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex. What does Ankle socks have to do with that?
Who would purposely not bring their tie. Like anyone wants to get into trouble.
OMG super propoganda!
Pah and you said bookings were warnings and reminders then you tell me that they are to give detentions? Sadists...
Do you really think he acts like one? He plays the piano better than you and runs from cheese with an astounding speed.
1.My eyes? I did not say it looks good. Check the previous posts. 2. We are man and you are not? To each his own. Doesn't mean that if one male person does not fit in to the 'normal' character of a male does not mean that he is not one. 3.Crowd says that we are anti-prefects? I'm just annoyed at the fact that they are so 'police' like and that they are wasting their effort in trying to uphold the reputation of the school by negative reinforcement. Also, the rationale that they use to justify the rules can be countered easily but they still want to keep them. 4.UYOs suck? Because they make you stay long hours. But I must admit its getting amusing with birds nest fern dude ;D 5.OUTCASTS? Tell me who said that. In a school people aren't really that mature and charismatic people will take control cos' of their ability to control and set the rest of the school's trend. The only reason why this happens is because a)the students are drawn by the charisma of the 'leaders' who are usually the trend-setters b)Friends dominate adolescent youth growth and these people are easy to get to know. They also usually are afraid to take their own stand for fear of becoming an 'outcast'. Therefore the 'outcasts' are generally more courageousShiit why did I even say that? These 'OUTCASTS' as you call them(Although its a word I really don't like) are the people who do not a) Follow the trend setters and therefore have no friends in the 'mass' and then the majority picks on the minority again. b)Choose to stand their ground and make friends with the fellow 'OUTCASTS' These people find confidence with their like minded friends but still get bullied cos' they are still the minority. But the damage is less. The only reason why you call me part of the majority is because I am against the 'prefect character'. In truth its because I'm part of both groups. I believe this is the best position in the 'School Heirachy/politics' as I will call it.
Anyway why is this person who is not a prefect supporting them so much? And I heard he wanted 2 be a prefect OMG!
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Post by Wesltw on Mar 3, 2008 20:59:00 GMT 8
Anyway why is this person who is not a prefect supporting them so much?
Even though Im not a prefect, that doesn't mean that I cannot suuport the prefects rite?
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Post by The 13i$cU1+ Mon$+3r on Mar 3, 2008 21:13:48 GMT 8
O.o crap screwed up. But can you answer the question Chestee put forward? The one in post #50 with regards to post #47 . I would like to see the reply.
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Post by Chestee on Mar 4, 2008 21:58:43 GMT 8
Waah! This is the first tread i look at after the camp of hell and i see some s*** reply by Westlw!(no offence, but seriously, it sucks). Why? In this post, which i might not have the time or energy to cover all the points, but i shall point out the misconceptions, contradictions, and points out of point of Westlw's rebuttal.
The point you rebutted, which was the high heeled shoes concept, you have made a mistake in interpreting my point, which was,(i apologize if this was not mad clear in the last post) man is free to think what he wishes, but can never say and make... How to explain this... You say that man wisened up to the fact that high-heeled shoes look good on women but not men, which was probably true, but with so many men wearing ankle socks now, saying that ankle socks are gay is just insulting EVERY MAN ON EARTH who wears ankle socks! So in the past, ankle socks might have been manufactured for women, but now, men find in acceptable to wear it. SAME CONCEPT! CHANGE CAN TAKE PLACE OVER TIME!
I felt stupified(sorry but true) confused by this statement. GIVE ME A GOOD REASON WHY ARE ANKLE SOCKS, OR EXTREMELY HIGH SOCCER SOCKS(FOR THAT MATTER) ARE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR SCHOOL WEAR!!! Give me the reason b4 we start Dbating on this part again! Your last two sentences are also VERY CONTROVERSIAL.Ok. Now. "Ankle socks doesn't really look good." ISN'T THIS JUST YOUR OPINION? Isn't it also a personal view? Or is it influenced by somebody else?*cough*cough* "People thinks it looks good bcos other ppl are wearing it." This whole sentence can be Dbated! In my opinion, this could be true for some but false for others! I'll continue in my next post. Sorry.YAWN.
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Post by The 13i$cU1+ Mon$+3r on Mar 10, 2008 19:15:32 GMT 8
I like this quote: "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent"-Elanor Roosevelt.
See! adding to my previous point and Chestee's point: Ankle socks are not strictly for girls. Ye Yang can go around cross dressing(or maybe he is just wearing what he should) and if he doesn't give a f about what others think, then he will not feel embarassed or Gay(Although in out eyes it is obvious). As with ankle socks. Anyone can go out wearing them and no one can make them feel like a idiot unless they take it to heart.
So whats wrong with wearing ankle socks?
Back on topic now this is becoming an ankle socks thread.
Linking back to the point with the ankle socks: Yes the prefectorial board is told to make sure students don't wear ankle socks because its only their duty. But please do not despise these people as gangsters or a potential nuisence to society. Do not judge a book by its cover.
Yawn tired now going 2 post in 3.2.1.
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Post by Tintin on Mar 15, 2008 16:52:32 GMT 8
My turn now I understand that prefects do bookings for law and order. But since prefects are so orderly and lawly, why torture them during training camps?
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Post by webmaster on Mar 15, 2008 18:49:21 GMT 8
They want to see who has the real leadership potential, and that will lead to the eventual decision as to WHO shall be the part of the prefectorial council later on.
Why should you care anyway? Its not like you would see it anymore.
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Post by The 13i$cU1+ Mon$+3r on Mar 15, 2008 22:08:24 GMT 8
Oi answer the question. You fellars are just avoiding it and trying to change the subject.
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