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Post by Wesltw on Apr 12, 2008 16:50:32 GMT 8
Whining and whining. Sigh. CB again. Say watever you wan, cos everyone knows the truth. I didn't say u are weak. I said that those who cannot stand UYOs or its punishments are weak. I DIDN'T refer to anybody. What you have done is telling the whole world that you cannot stand UYOs cos you are weak. By weak I do not mean physically but mentally as well.
I did not say i am fit, so please read b4 u post. Again, I emphasise on discipline. You are obviously not disciplined thats why you are whining about the hardship of UYOs.
In war, obviously you keep yourself alive. I am only talking about now you thingy. read b4 u post.
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Post by mourningfrost on Apr 13, 2008 11:32:53 GMT 8
Its not that my posts are dumb and naive its that you dont bother thinking twice about them.
Hmm, might be true. But the same goes double for you?
You all just look at it and immediately think it is dumb.
Who the hell smuggles in MSK in a boot?
And wesltw, this actually reflects badly on you, because you are the only guy who insults me so badly. You have brains dont you? Then....
Skip~ And Wesltw How dare you discriminate me with YJM! Arent you a Caleb Bang drop Chestee's computer say "Its not my falut" " I want mummy!"
Mesa no geddit mejikaO_O
I screw off! You donkey go and eat grass first then you talk. I weak ,you got higher than me in NPFHA then say lah! Cant even beat Elroy in standing board jump
This is totally illogical. He can beat you in inclined, you can beat him in shuttle, so on so forth. EG : If you can beat me in 2.4 why not in sit n reach or inclined? Stuff applies. Especially law of physics and common sense that this is not a fair comparison =.=
You withstand hardships and be loyal lah then in war you die lah. UYO enthu, like YY like that. In war, you keep yourselves and family alve dont care about other things. I am unloyak wealkings, you fat pig more like it!
Lol. You know how many people died in war to protect their country? Ok. Lets put it in more . . . simple . . . scenarios so you can understand. You're a policeman (as if that'll ever happen) and you're walking along one day. Then you hear a gunshot. you run to the scene. Oh hell oh spite oh cross too low to be bethralled! in front of your eyes there is a man with a gun pointing at your mother, another gun in his other hand pointing at your father. A giant bomb strapped to your siblings (who are tied together) and he claims the bomb will go BOOM when he shoots. He says the only way for you to save them is for YOU to die. Would you say yes ? Would you say no?
I know you're pointing that it's human instinct to be selfish and care only about yourself in war and great dangers or threats. But hey, that's only you. We would rather die for the country IF it saves it. Why not? It's our home.
BTW: About the NOOB GOVERNMENT part. If it were really noob you would be coughing screaming slithing in pain and dying of SARS now. A single airborne virus can destroy most countries unless contained.
As for my behaviour after BB, lets hear from others and not always you
What about it
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Post by Wesltw on Apr 13, 2008 22:00:00 GMT 8
Titnin, back to you.
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Post by Tintin on Apr 14, 2008 16:37:41 GMT 8
Wow I didnt know that posting things on the forum is whininh. Who knows the truth, crap monster?
Please do nor behave like your stuck up self. You dropped Chester;s comp say its not my fault you say Singapore do not need unloyal weaklings ike you people then you say you never sayWTF! Be brave and admit what you do and say
Wow I am not disciplined. At least I am better than some donkeys who copy people's answers for International Friendship day and only do 2 sections. I did 90% myself. Now look whos disciplined
Galv I beat Wesltw in everything including inclined just to clarify If u want to die for your country go ahead there is nothing I can do to stop you anyway
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Post by Wesltw on Apr 14, 2008 21:17:17 GMT 8
Sigh
1. I knocked it and it fell and it's both his as well as mine fault. 2. I was not refering to you, unless you admit it T.T 3. I copy ans? I was doing with Andreas dammit. I did it with him. Get your facts right b4 u comment. =.= 4. You beat me in everything, so why complain about pumpings being too hard and tough for u?
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Post by mourningfrost on Apr 14, 2008 22:04:01 GMT 8
Wow I didnt know that posting things on the forum is whininh. Who knows the truth, crap monster?
Aiya both of you shush about that can? Directed to frenchfry too =.=
Please do nor behave like your stuck up self. You dropped Chester;s comp say its not my fault you say Singapore do not need unloyal weaklings ike you people then you say you never sayWTF! Be brave and admit what you do and say
Constructive criticism is needed, not blind insults. TQ very much
Wow I am not disciplined. At least I am better than some donkeys who copy people's answers for International Friendship day and only do 2 sections. I did 90% myself. Now look whos disciplined
Errr... so? When teacher's not around you copy from him in class during breaks.
Galv I beat Wesltw in everything including inclined just to clarify
Oh goodie? That's none of my concern, honestly, just hope both of you would shut up and consider the other person's strengths too.
If u want to die for your country go ahead there is nothing I can do to stop you anyway
We all know i would die for the country. The question here is you.
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Post by Tintin on Apr 15, 2008 17:35:20 GMT 8
I would not die for my country dream on when pigs fly. We must survive and ensure our security during a war.
I stopped copying him in class already
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Post by mourningfrost on Apr 15, 2008 19:10:22 GMT 8
If that were the case the country would either go BOOM first or the casualties would be 0.
there occasionally comes the civiliian casualty because NCDCC do not bother to save everyone?
Besides, during a war. civillians are targetted too. That's where NCDCC and SJAB all come into place. Dont believe me its your loss when the building behind you bursts and you get your leg caught under a tree. I ain't saving you, thats for sure.
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Post by Chestee on Apr 15, 2008 21:52:28 GMT 8
To be honest i wouldn't really go as far as to DIE for the country, neither would I be so STUPID to DIE. No. I would probably FIGHT, but i would really not want to die. For example, if your orders are to hold the position at all costs, but IF it becomes obvious that you cannot do so, the options would be to a) run away, or b) Surrender or c) Go down fighting. I would personally pick a), or if i cannot get away without getting shot, then i would rather surrender. Obviously after convicing my mates to do the same. Wait, before anyone comes out to flame me, i will explain the rationale of my choices. I will fight, but fight smart. Killing without getting killed. And running away in battle is not neccessarily a cowardly thing to do. There is this saying in war- He who runs away will fight again. Albeit this is for larger scale battles, in any battle with other battles that will be probably happening in the near future, fighting to the last man is the STUPIDEST THING YOU CAN EVER DO. Running away is never cowardly in the face of defeat. However, this does not go to say that you should not fight. Casualties when the battle hangs in the balance is always unavoidable, and unlucky is the person who is targetted and hit by the bullet of an attacker. Just hope you're not the next one. And the training HELPS YOU LIKE SOME CRAP. In battle, it might seem magical but your training & discipline helps you carry out your killing and manuverbility like lightning. One order, the next moment people are hurrying on the double to flank the enemy, retreat, charge, etc. Adrenaline + discipline= Power. This was why ancient rome could expand its empire so far. Its legions were the MOST ORGANISED, and they were called 'KILLING MACHINES'. For example, the romans were so disciplined that while fighting the uncivilized barbarians, they were victorious because of their discipline, not just because of tactical brilliance. Now to surrender. I say that surrender is smarter than going down fighting is because that now your life or death really cannot change the war. Being taken prisoner is gonna be better being dead as you could probably lead your own life after the war. Although it also depends who takes you prisoner. But really. Civilians ARE NOT TARGETTED IN A WAR, UNLESS YOU'RE FIGHTING GUERRILAS. People are more civilised now and will not target civilians in any overland operation. I can't say the same about air raids though. But as long as you have a bomb shelter(which all HDB flats have[void deck]) you're quite safe unless you're d**n, d**n unlucky.
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Post by Wesltw on Apr 15, 2008 22:12:21 GMT 8
Well, they could aim civilians to unsettle the rest of the poeple couldn;t they? And yes, it is wise to live and fight another day.
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Post by mourningfrost on Apr 15, 2008 23:02:15 GMT 8
To be honest i wouldn't really go as far as to DIE for the country, neither would I be so STUPID to DIE.
Yes, obviously you would try not to die. but if you had to, obviously you would die for the country, Like you're the last guy standing and you're on the bridge. You have to pull that bomb trigger to kill all the enemies, but that would mean sacrificing yourself.
No. I would probably FIGHT, but i would really not want to die.
Noone wants to die. But if you have to, you will, wouldn't you? I havent seen any idiot yet who runs up to me and goes "i want to die".
For example, if your orders are to hold the position at all costs, but IF it becomes obvious that you cannot do so, the options would be to a) run away, or b) Surrender or c) Go down fighting.
My friend. There's a FINE LINE between dying for your country and stupidity. Theres a saying here. The difference between "live to fight another day" and "running away". Which idiot would put up 1 soldier against 10 jets and 20 tanks? Well if option A was out cos they blockaded it, would you go down without a fight or surrender and die later anyway after they torture information outta you and your family is dead?
I would personally pick a), or if i cannot get away without getting shot, then i would rather surrender. Obviously after convicing my mates to do the same.
You would get shot by that time dammit. You think enemies wait and stone while you discuss? and if any of the people disagree, you'll get shot when you raise that white flag anyway. The only diff is your name as a "hero" or a "traitor"
Wait, before anyone comes out to flame me, i will explain the rationale of my choices. I will fight, but fight smart. Killing without getting killed. And running away in battle is not neccessarily a cowardly thing to do. There is this saying in war- He who runs away will fight again. Albeit this is for larger scale battles, in any battle with other battles that will be probably happening in the near future, fighting to the last man is the STUPIDEST THING YOU CAN EVER DO.
Agreed with every sentence but the last. It is not necassarily the dumbest thing to do. Some things are better off without. Would you rather die fighting for the country in that flash of a gun, or die being tortured over a roast with nails prised under your... nails? and being a traitor the last thing you remember before your mind fades to oblivion?
Running away is never cowardly in the face of defeat. However, this does not go to say that you should not fight. Casualties when the battle hangs in the balance is always unavoidable, and unlucky is the person who is targetted and hit by the bullet of an attacker. Just hope you're not the next one.
OBVIOUSLY you hope you're not the one la. wtf. but if you had to die for your country you would. If noone wanted to die for their country then the war was lost before it was started.
And the training HELPS YOU LIKE SOME CRAP. In battle, it might seem magical but your training & discipline helps you carry out your killing and manuverbility like lightning.
I dont think that classifies as crap.
One order, the next moment people are hurrying on the double to flank the enemy, retreat, charge, etc. Adrenaline + discipline= Power. This was why ancient rome could expand its empire so far. Its legions were the MOST ORGANISED, and they were called 'KILLING MACHINES'. For example, the romans were so disciplined that while fighting the uncivilized barbarians, they were victorious because of their discipline, not just because of tactical brilliance.
I dont think i need to comment on this part.
Now to surrender. I say that surrender is smarter than going down fighting is because that now your life or death really cannot change the war.
Oh, yes it can. Yes it can my friend. By more than you think. The cunning tactition takes all in his stride. If you had a brain good enough, you could bring as much as one platoon with you at the cost of your own life. That 1 platoon you brought down might have made the difference. The saying goes a sea is made of many droplets. Every drop counts. Every man down is a step closer to victory. What more a platoon or unit
Being taken prisoner is gonna be better being dead as you could probably lead your own life after the war. Although it also depends who takes you prisoner.
Noone said you would survive. Your body might not take.. uh... THE EVERYDAY TORTURE? and you might even get executed (for fun)
But really. Civilians ARE NOT TARGETTED IN A WAR, UNLESS YOU'RE FIGHTING GUERRILAS.
The sly tacticion targets not the body, but the heart. The word -Hostage- means alot. To tell you honestly. With the civilian areas taken hostage (excluding all military camps) 3/4 of our troops would just surrender. Civilians ARE targetted in wars as last resorts or as an "easy way out". Civillians are in danger as much as the troops. trust me.
People are more civilised now and will not target civilians in any overland operation.
Did i say overland operation? many types of strategies in war. Air raids, bombing, insider atacks, Chemical warfare, biological warfare (letting loose lions in the city, lol. giving ideas here.). All involve civillian casualties.
I can't say the same about air raids though. But as long as you have a bomb shelter(which all HDB flats have[void deck]) you're quite safe unless you're d**n, d**n unlucky.
And WHO established the idea of the bomb shelter? Civil Defence. What use is a bomb shelter if you dont know what to do in it and die in there of suffocation anyway or sth dumb? NCDCC FTW
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Post by The 13i$cU1+ Mon$+3r on Apr 16, 2008 19:32:09 GMT 8
LOL ok that was a nice analogy how did we get to it? I would personally not die for anything. I would fly to antartica and live with the penguins rather than be bombed. If they come al gore would make a big fuss for warming up the antartic and the UN will start turning its satellite rail guns.
Now civillians are more vulnerable than soldiers in a war. Civillians are bombed and murdered by satellite guns while the enemies are too afraid to spam the orbital bombardment on the front line cos the firepower would hurt their troops. Then there are all those kill zone 1km earthshaker rounds. Yes very good try but again those are long dist shots wich they fire not at the front of the battle but slightly behind those. 1km is good enough to wipe out 10 waves of you own troops. Dont believe me? dl the dota template and modify nether blast to be able to hurt friendly troops and increase the radius to 1000+ AoE and see how much harder it is to get last hits and denies (Of course you get all)
Lol chem warfare? They wouldnt dare too much Y u use it from un crap and its eco unfriendly.
I agree with the hurts the heart part. Homo Sapiens translated from latin means 'thinking man'. If we didnt raise battle to the state of the mind, Hammers and Rocks would be the current deadliest weapon.(The industrial revolution would then lead to creations like graviton hammer, rocket rock, but no explosives) Why, one die doesnt matter it isnt me i dont give a f*ck about my friends and family i just wanna win Waaagh so your head's goin on me pointy stick and i tell oyu thats an honour.
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Post by mourningfrost on Apr 16, 2008 20:10:22 GMT 8
Your post is kinda screwed up. i cant read it -.-
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Post by The 13i$cU1+ Mon$+3r on Apr 16, 2008 20:14:20 GMT 8
Isit my language or a technical error?
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Post by Chestee on Apr 16, 2008 21:19:32 GMT 8
Maybe you never heard of this but there are laws even in wars. I'll copy paste stuff from wiki now.
Civilians CANNOT BE TARGETED. NO HOSTAGES ARE TO BE TAKEN. P-O-Ws CANNOT BE ILL TREATED. ANY VIOLATION WILL RESULT IN THEM BEING CONSIDERED AS WAR CRIMES AND ACTION WILL BE TAKEN THROUGH LAW. Surely most of the flaws have been covered here right?
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