Back on topic please. Lets get back around here. By mourningfrost:
However you forget the importance of indirect benefits. The point here, my friend, is that UYO's benefit you / are meaningful. Your retaliation point was that they are not meaningful or beneficial as long as they are not an integral part of your life, if you choose so, but here are some other points.
What happens if in my view, they do not benefit me and are not meaningful.
UYO toughen's your reflexes and helps you not to daydream. If you plan to be a sports goalkeeper, this comes into good play too
I dont see any relation. I quit BB and I seem to be better at goalkeeper
UYO alerts you and teaches discipline, which is similar to being disciplined in a concert hall and not suddenly scratching your butt when playing the climax of the song
I am already disciplined myself. Please elaborate more on how it teaches me to be more discipline
UYO teaches beneficial skills, to many, dependign on the UYO.
If someone has a heart attack, noone's near. who can save him? Sjab
Nope. God can save him
If there's a small fire which is ready to grow into a flashover and burn properties of hundreds and kill a few people, who puts out the fire?
NCDCC
Wrong. God puts out the fire indirectly
People need help, money is always needed ot help people. Who raises this money for charity?
Boys brigade
What rubish. AS member of it for 1 yr, the money goes to the purchasing of drinks and kitkat and organising activites gor the captain and officers, what bullsh*t with charity
MSK suddenly appears and starts running away. Everyone is terrified and scream and take picture. Who chases him, beats the crap outta him and then kicks some balls?
NPCC
He turned over a new leaf
All UYO's teach important skills which come in useful in life NO MATTER WHAT PROFESSION YOU PLAY. It might even save your life, which i think, would be both "beneficial" and "meaningful"
Wow I am amazed. I dont think so. They didnt teach me anything important
Thats only half my point. Let's use common sense to trace this path
I am
Obviously you have to do national service
Not exactly
Obviously UYO's benefit you as they toughen you up
They waste your time not toughen you up
Obviously you're gna do national service or else face severe punishment
The government sucks force people to do this stuff Stupid eh!
Obviously you're gna choose natioanl service and benefit the country rather than being jailed and hated by all your peers and jailed with forceful manual labour over the same time frame with no family or friends besides visit times
Thats why the government plainly sucks. They threten us with jail or ns **** them
thus,
Obviously, UYO toughen's you up for NS which you're not going to skip unless you're a dipsh*t. And if you sue me for saying this, it just goes to prove
I have enouh sueing for now and people who think UYOs are their life and is fun is dipsh*t and UYOs do not toughen you up but waste your time
You're going to skip ns, cos i only called those who skipped NS dipsh*ts and if you're gna skip ns you really are a dipsh*t for posting it over the net in big bold words. Hey, isnt that convenient? i love paradoxes.
Whatever dipsh*t
Once again im asking NICELY for you to stop putting your rebutts within a quote. its freaking hard to read
And chill wesly, noone's gna eat you yet.
And whoever (i forgot who) might i remind you, for ME, my strategy in a debate is to get the enemy to contradict himself (which obviously leads to my point being more than over doubled)
or at least rebutt them till they have no more drive (which i can do if i bothered to)
What happens if in my view, they do not benefit me and are not meaningful.
I did not say they needed to benefit you. A big part of UYO is to help others, not yourself. Obviously you cant CPR yourself, you wouldn't collect money for charity if you're ill and you wouldn't put out the fire if you're burnt. Why? You ask? It's obviously to help others in time of emergency, not to help yourself 24 / 7.
Well, you can be suited to your own point of view, i cant really change that, but when someone you care for is in real trouble and about to die, imagine if when you appeal for help they say " sorry we don't have enough funds" or "there were no first aiders at the scence because we did not train any SJAB cadets at all, sorry but he / she died on the spot". While its true it does not bnefit yourself, it benefits all others around you, for sure (ASSUMING you don't go to UYO's for the sake of beign promoted but for the sake of learning)
I dont see any relation. I quit BB and I seem to be better at goalkeeper
You put the word "seem". Need i remind you "seem" is the usage of an illustration of a mirage or illusion. If you want something accurate put a comparison BEFORE BB and DURING BB rather than after it. Your body would already recieve the benefits after BB (duh)
I am already disciplined myself. Please elaborate more on how it teaches me to be more discipline
I think this is more than self explanatory. A major part of UYO's is discipline and strengthening of willpower. Although i will not deny your discipline is satisfactory, i will however point out that your logic has a giant hole in it. Discipline cannot be measured, and you surely are not 100 % willpowered. Ever noticed the difference in characters between Elroy (keeps ponning UYO) Caleb (Never went UYO before) or JunMing (No UYO already) and people like Yinn (Sjab natural leader) Haoyang (NCDCC Cadet regular)?
Nope, God can save him.
Hey, you wanna hear a story? There was once a great flood. There was a christian believer who said "God will save me". The flood rose and the christian still waited. A car drove past and the driver told him "get in before it gets worse!" The christian smiled and said "no. God will save me" The water level rose and the man had to stay at the 2nd floor of his house. A boat sped past and the oarsman said "hop on. we got room for 1 more." The christian said "No, god will save me." Now the flood got so bad he had to stay on the roof. A helicopter flew across and a ladder fell to the christian. The pilot said "quick, get on." But the christian refused again, saying "no. God will save me." The christian died and went to heaven. He met god and asked "why didn't you save me?" God replied "i already sent you a car, boat and a helicopter. What more do you want?"
Similarly, god helps those who help themselves. He already sent you loyal (FOCUS WORD OF THE DAY) Sjab NCDCC NCC NPCC Cadets and scouts, etc, what more do you want?
Wrong. God puts out the fire indirectly
So does the high chlorine content in the air, but noone ever thanks that, do they?
What rubish. AS member of it for 1 yr, the money goes to the purchasing of drinks and kitkat and organising activites gor the captain and officers, what bullsh*t with charity
I'm astounded. That much already shows what ignorance you have for your own CCA. BB is selling most of the items at costprice with similar saleprice. That means the total profit will linger around 0. But every few cans can go to help making an articifitial limb for a person rather than you tossing it in the bin to be dumped underground somewhere. The difference here, my dear tintin, is that we bother to help.
He turned over a new leaf
Ok, really. This part was a joke, but if you're gna say he turned over a new leaf, at least provide evidence.
I can say "tyndale is a girl" but what proof do i have? If you're gna make a point, give evidence. If you're gna give pointless answers like "God will save me" for every line, you're very very sadly mistaken.
All UYO's teach important skills which come in useful in life NO MATTER WHAT PROFESSION YOU PLAY. It might even save your life, which i think, would be both "beneficial" and "meaningful"
That's cos you didn't listen and you didn't care. I thought that logic was simple enough to grasp. Don't pay attention and there's nothing you can learn.
I am
You're not
Not exactly
Yes, you have to do it or face the law (duh)
They waste your time not toughen you up
So does classical music but i don't see anyone of us complaining
The government sucks force people to do this stuff Stupid eh!
If everyone thought like you our SPF would be barren. If you don't like it you can migrate to another country. For singapore, its compulsory because of our small country size. It's not because they think it's d**n fun. Its so that the country doesnt get squished in 3 hours in 1 war. That's why you aint using common sense. All and i mean ALL Your points have NO evidence, NO elaboration and almost NO point, just a random statement.
Thats why the government plainly sucks. They threten us with jail or ns **** them
Read above post
I have enouh sueing for now and people who think UYOs are their life and is fun is dipsh*t and UYOs do not toughen you up but waste your time
Not that you dont want to sue me. You CANT sue me. It's a plain case because it's a paradox you cannot do anything unless you're admitting to a major crime in which case you would automatically lose the case. Well i think UYO's are fun but not my life, its like duh. I can tell you. In 1 hour of UYO you get more benefits than 10000 hours of watching Westham united lose in soccer matches and 10000 hours of playing classical music in that concert hall.
Whatever dipsh*t
Whoops now, i can sue you, can't I? This clearly directs to me when i have not insulted you in any matter unless you're commiting a serious crime. Whoopsies you just caught yourself in a contradictory spike there